tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7510401356434571028.post7621877902110155199..comments2024-03-15T05:42:30.304+00:00Comments on Transition Norwich Blog: Inspector Runs Rule on High Carbon PlansJon Curranhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17262576893677134833noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7510401356434571028.post-51548962367036155082010-12-04T19:18:20.245+00:002010-12-04T19:18:20.245+00:00This is an absolutely brilliant overview Councillo...This is an absolutely brilliant overview Councillor Boswell. Though it is a pity that your written and spoken contributions to the Inquiry did not pack anything like such a punch - I suppose you were nervous, and I don't blame you. <br /><br />Since you have upped your game with such skill and rapidity, perhaps you are ready for the next stage. As someone who spent a lot of time as a teenager listing to seasoned ecologists like Teddy Goldsmith, Leopold Kohr, Diana Schumacher, Ivan Illich, etc., I have to tell you that your post above has already been said over and over again since the 1970s. Those who profit from Growth and Globalisation have paid no attention whatsoever - all they have done is develop a forked tongue where they babble on the one hand about carbon etc and on the other fuel the stampede for Growth which now includes "Green Growth" and "Sustainable Development", both a contradiction in terms in all countries more developed than Papua New Guinea. I seem to remember that the Amerindians complained that the colonisers spoke with forked tongues - but their complaints got nowhere, so we need to be a bit more pro-active or we and the rest of living biodiversity will end up in the same place as the First Nations of the Americas. In Reservations - and indeed if you look at the little green blobs on the GNDP maps representing "Nature" they look exactly like the South African Bantustans or the Palestinian Bantustans or whatever they call the disconnected blobs which are all that is left of Palestine.<br /><br />The only thing that works is either UN Law, enforced a local level, or direct action, a useful euphemism for a range of activities which are not necessarily illegal because UN Law permits citizens to take matters into their own hands to some extent, as a Judge recently ruled in relation to the Kingsnorth protesters.<br /><br />A UN Convention is hard law - it MUST be obeyed by the signatories, and implemented at their national and subnational levels. I am afraid we are going to have to start using these Conventions coupled with any UK environmental Laws (and we have some pretty good ones believe it or not, dating back to the 1980s). No doubt a Parish Council could use them, so could a lone individual. So could a political party, or more than one political party acting together or separately. The more the merrier - again either together as a Class Action, or individually. Funds are only needed to pay court fees of a few hundred pounds and to defray award of costs against you if you lose - but if you have no money you can't pay the costs and if you own no property no charging order for the costs can be made against your non-existent property.<br /><br />The only other things Developers will listen are earthquakes, financial collapse, bubonic plague, tidal waves, and large-scale famine - not necessarily in that pecking order. And they only listen to famine if it is so bad that it removes their customer base, otherwise they would ignore it because they would have plenty to eat somehow.<br /><br />By the way, you forgot to mention that all the houses are for people from outside Norfolk and the new jobs for the inmates of the new rabbit hutches will be in "Financial Services". These facts too emerged at the Inquiry and would seem to be fairly crucial when weighing up priorities.edith crowthernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7510401356434571028.post-60970283851426785212010-12-03T10:20:51.362+00:002010-12-03T10:20:51.362+00:00Andrew's argument - that building growth aroun...Andrew's argument - that building growth around a high carbon infrastructure cannot possibly help on a planet already overburdened by human material growth - is axiomatic. So it ought to have been the theme running through the three weeks of the Examination of the JCS. Yet the time was spent largely in developers and council officers dodging each other's sallies about material development, as though the future of the planet depended upon the developers' balance sheets and local planners' arrogance. When called upon, the utilities kept saying "If you want more services we can provide them but it'll cost you", instead of ever mentioning the cost to the planet.<br /><br />Andrew, and Denise Carlo for NNTAG, and SNUB for the local communities, did what they could. And Natural England eventually laid down a solid marker too. But what of the Inspectors who were examining it all? Will they have to judge according to planning criteria, or to planetary axioms? Just how independent can they be of their political masters? Andrew's right to bemoan the secrecy in the GNDP, but how much do we know about what Grant Shapps and Eric Piccles are really up to behind their Westminster facades?Peter Lanyonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7510401356434571028.post-90836514615492804412010-12-01T21:24:14.099+00:002010-12-01T21:24:14.099+00:00Your little sister says "Keep up your inspira...Your little sister says "Keep up your inspirational and invaluable work bro !" MjBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7510401356434571028.post-91113718193749180092010-12-01T18:42:28.320+00:002010-12-01T18:42:28.320+00:00If acres are set aside for the natural landscape, ...If acres are set aside for the natural landscape, then these acres must have the cultural landscape removed first. But that is not the end of it. To return to the natural landscape these acres must then come under the sole control of of natural forces and processes without "help" or interruption by people, their things or their actions. The natural landscape is not the same as natural landscaping. It usually is just the opposite.<br /><br />See:<br />http://wslfconwaymausa.blogspot.com/<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_landscape<br /><br />Richard Stafursky<br />Brattleboro, VT USARichard Stafurskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16938439988323664453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7510401356434571028.post-21526756793972855452010-12-01T13:52:28.863+00:002010-12-01T13:52:28.863+00:00I admire your commitment Andrew. I’ve been making...I admire your commitment Andrew. I’ve been making the point for some years that the words ‘sustainable transport’ are liberally scattered throughout GNDP documents – yet there is little evidence of how ‘sustainable transport’ will be achieved. Hence my campaign for a cycle path to link the NRP area to Hethersett and beyond - http://www.little-melton.org.uk/news/CyclePath.htm.<br /><br />We all have to decide what is the best way for us as individuals to engage with these large scale planning processes and to try and influence them for the better .John Heaserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00173736155065440503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7510401356434571028.post-44273074734260411242010-12-01T11:35:02.562+00:002010-12-01T11:35:02.562+00:00Fantastic work Andrew. I am so glad that there are...Fantastic work Andrew. I am so glad that there are sensible people who are at the least pointing out the insanity of current plans. <br /><br />I am sure there are many people who would be more than happy to give their opinion/lobby the relevant people to try and get more open and carbon-centric plans. So please do let transition norwich members know if we have any opportunity to join in!<br /><br />Heres hoping that a final nail gets put in the NDR coffin soon.Kerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00764619334916067561noreply@blogger.com