tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7510401356434571028.post3611415812716925935..comments2024-03-15T05:42:30.304+00:00Comments on Transition Norwich Blog: The Map is not the Territory (Original Remix Version)Jon Curranhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17262576893677134833noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7510401356434571028.post-62716157492924982112012-04-15T12:53:36.467+01:002012-04-15T12:53:36.467+01:00Glad you like the blog, Doly. However I wasn't...Glad you like the blog, Doly. However I wasn't singling out Permaculture as "wrong" here, merely saying that the Wild is not often included in our view of the planet. My main frame is in the intro para: <br /><br />in order to to find a new co-operative narrative to live by, we need to end an old and hostile story <br /><br />We need to be as inclusive and as friendly as possible with each other and all lifeforms, not dualistic and antagonistic in the way our culture has taught us to be e.g. a time to hate and kill!Charlotte Du Cannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07216522431894543642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7510401356434571028.post-72893153510253923442012-04-14T17:50:15.137+01:002012-04-14T17:50:15.137+01:00"Even the deep green practices of Permacultur..."Even the deep green practices of Permaculture assign wild nature to an unspecified region known as Zone 5. Not in my garden. Not in my country."<br /><br />I came to read this blog post just for this quote on the Transition newsletter. I think it sums things up so perfectly.<br /><br />The way I've seen many people think of permaculture, it's just like that. I don't think that's how the people who started permaculture thought about it. But many people see permaculture as just another bag of tricks to control the world, a better and nicer bag of tricks, but tricks after all.<br /><br />I went once to a permaculture workshop done by a local permaculture person. She was enthusiastic about it, and told us how her favourite permaculture saying was "the only limit to yield is our imaginations". I asked her how was that different from the usual "the sky's the limit" thinking so pervasive among technologists. She was very uncomfortable and defensive. I thought that, for all that she was supposed to be the permaculture "expert", I possibly understood it better.<br /><br />It really isn't about a better bag of tricks. It's about understanding your living environment so well, that you know exactly how to work with it. And when not to work with it. It's exactly as it says in Ecclesiastes:<br /><br />For everything there is a season,<br />a time for every activity under heaven.<br />A time to be born and a time to die.<br />A time to plant and a time to harvest.<br />A time to kill and a time to heal.<br />A time to tear down and a time to build up.<br />A time to cry and a time to laugh.<br />A time to grieve and a time to dance.<br />A time to scatter stones and a time to gather stones.<br />A time to embrace and a time to turn away.<br />A time to search and a time to quit searching.<br />A time to keep and a time to throw away.<br />A time to tear and a time to mend.<br />A time to be quiet and a time to speak.<br />A time to love and a time to hate.<br />A time for war and a time for peace.Dolyhttp://www.ecoenergyfairbrighton.org.uknoreply@blogger.com